Sunday, March 14, 2010

I have squealihg rear brake drums on a Ford Focus. I've replaced shoes and drums and still squeals. Has?

anyone heard of silencer pads for the backing plates? There is a Ford TSB #15-10-5 on it, but my Ford dealer can't find the part # for them. It seems that you glue some sort of material to your backing plates to stop the noise, The dealer told me to get all new Ford shoes for $116.00. Any other tricks that my work?

I have squealihg rear brake drums on a Ford Focus. I've replaced shoes and drums and still squeals. Has?
That TSB # number does not appear to exist any longer. However, the latest TSB from Ford pertaining to the symptom you describe is as follows:





TSB


07-14-4 REAR BRAKE SQUEAL





Publication Date: July 5, 2007





FORD: 2000-2007 Focus








This article supersedes TSB 07-12-4 to update the Parts List for anti-lock brake system (ABS) equipped vehicles.





ISSUE:


Some 2000-2007 Focus vehicles (excluding vehicles equipped with rear disc brakes) may exhibit a long or extended squealing noise from the rear drum brakes during end of stop (medium to low initial speed with light brake pressure applied).





ACTION:


Follow the Service Procedure steps to correct the condition.





DIAGNOSTIC EVALUATION





Understanding brake noise is key in making a proper diagnosis. However, some sounds are a normal part of brake operation, while others may indicate a problem. To aid in making a proper diagnosis, it is very helpful to know the answers to key questions.





Key Questions:





Where does the brake noise seem to originate, front or rear?


Does it happen when the brakes are cold, or after the vehicle has been driven for a period of time?


At what speed does the noise occur?


Does it occur on heavy or light braking applications?


Does it happen after many stops, or only after the first few stops?


Does it happen in wet conditions (such as rain, snow, humid or after a car wash)?


Do any ABS or Traction Control lamps illuminate when the noise is heard?


Additional Drum Brake Noise Factors:





Excessive brake dust inside the brake drum.


Removing the drum and cleaning the brakes may eliminate certain types of squeal noises; use Motorcraft® Metal Brake Parts Cleaner or brake washer to clean brake components. After following the procedures in Workshop Manual (WSM), Section 206-02 and any applicable safety procedures mandated by OSHA or other agencies regarding the servicing of brakes.


CAUTION: NEVER USE COMPRESSED AIR TO CLEAN BRAKE COMPONENTS.











Poor heel and toe contact between the brake shoes and brake drums.


Check brake drum diameter and brake lining discard thickness to determine if it is within specifications as noted in WSM, Section 206-02.


Check brake shoe adjustment. Refer to WSM, Section 206-02 for shoe adjustment procedure and parking brake adjustment procedure.


Weak, loose or damaged brake springs and hardware. Weak, loose or damaged springs may allow vibrations between the brake shoes and the raised pads on the backing plates to occur, resulting in brake noise.


NOTE: SILICONE BRAKE CALIPER GREASE AND DIELECTRIC COMPOUND MUST BE APPLIED TO THE BRAKE SHOE CONTACT POINTS ON THE BRAKE BACKING PLATE.











Formation of trace corrosion (light rust) on the metal surfaces during vehicle non-use or storage. This formation will typically cause a grinding type noise with rear brake drums and on some disc brakes during the first few stops (such as after the vehicle has been parked overnight). Light corrosion is typically cleared from the braking surfaces after a few stops, causing the noise to stop. This is considered a normal/acceptable condition that is caused by humidity and low brake pad temperatures. Refer to WSM, Section 206-00 Diagnosis and Testing Symptom Chart for additional information.


SERVICE PROCEDURE





Replace the rear brake shoes and the rear brake drums, at the same time, for the listed noise condition in the TSB Issue Section only. Do not replace the brake drums for other rear brake noise conditions. The brake drum has a unique surface finish to address this condition. Refer to the following service procedure for service details.





NOTE: SOME 2002 AND PRIOR MODEL YEAR VEHICLES MAY ALSO REQUIRE WHEEL CYLINDER REPLACEMENT IF THE REAR BRAKE SHOES ARE BEING REPLACED WITH THE REVISED COMPONENTS. REFER TO THE FOLLOWING SERVICE PROCEDURE.











Remove both rear brake drums. Refer to WSM, Section 206-02.


Inspect wheel cylinders.


If the wheel cylinder housing is bare cast iron, then replacement is not required if revised brake shoes are being installed.


If the wheel cylinder housing is plated, then replace the wheel cylinders if revised brake shoes are being installed. Refer to WSM, Section 206-02. (Only required on some 2000 - 2002 model year applications).


Replace brake shoes and brake drums with revised components. Refer to WSM, Section 206-02 for specific replacement procedures.


NOTE: ABS VEHICLES REQUIRE THE WHEEL SPEED SENSOR RING TO BE INSTALLED ON THE NEW BRAKE DRUM ASSEMBLY. REFER TO WSM, SECTION 204-02, WHEEL BEARING FOR SPECIFIC INSTALLATION PROCEDURES.











NOTE: APPLY SILICONE BRAKE CALIPER GREASE AND DIELECTRIC COMPOUND TO THE CONTACT POINTS BETWEEN THE SHOE AND THE REAR BACKING PLATE.











NOTE: DO NOT MACHINE OR SAND THE BRAKE DRUMS WHEN PERFORMING THIS TSB TO ADDRESS THIS NOISE CONDITION.











NOTE: THE REVISED BRAKE SHOES MAY MAKE AN INTERMITTENT SLIGHT SQUEAL NOISE FOR THE FIRST 100 TO 150 BRAKE APPLICATIONS. THIS IS NORMAL OPERATION.














PART NUMBER PART NAME


6S4Z-2200-B Shoe/Lining Brake Kit


6S4Z-2261-AA Wheel Cylinder


8S4Z-1113-A Brake Drum


5S4Z-2B384-AA Speed Sensor Ring


CPM-4 Motorcraft® Metal Brake Parts Cleaner


XG-3-A Motorcraft® Silicone Brake Caliper Grease And Dielectric Compound
Reply:I've never heard of silencer pads for a domestic vehicle, only for foreign vehicle's. As to the noise: You could have one problem you over-looked when you replaced them the first time. Brake dust. To clean it off, get a couple of cans of brake cleaner, a dust mask for the fumes and a covered work space. Take the wheels and drums off. Spray BOTH the inside and outside of the drums and the inside of the whole rear brake assembly. DO NOT USE COMPRESSED AIR!!!! The dust is asbestos based and will eventually kill you. Don't believe me, ask your doctor for the documented proof. Also, use some sand paper(about 150-300 grit) to clean off any rust that may have built up on the drums. Before putting the drums back together, put some anti-squeal compound available from the automotive parts store onto the inside of the drum surface. A little goes a long way.
Reply:Go to schucks, they have a special grease that you put on the back of the pads to stop the harmonics
Reply:it shouldnt be squeaking from the shoes like this. brake shoes or hardly used. you do better by simply replacing the pads and drums all at one time. people go into parts stores and buy just the brakes that it. they never buy any kind of lubrication or anything. the mechanic might even tell you that the auto parts try to hustle you with brake lubs and stuff but these things really work. if you do what it takes to get the job done right you shouldnt have any squeaking problems or anything. next time start buying lubricants for your parts. mechanic for years when i do brake people never complaining about squealing because i get the job done right not to cheap to spend a dollar or two on some lub for my parts.
Reply:there has to be grease put on the backing plate where the pads rub for one thing and I would sand the pads down some and take a file and bevel the 2 edges on the ends and see if that cures your problem.



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