Sunday, October 11, 2009

I bought my first pair of pointe shoes but have i been ill fitted?

I bought a pair of Bloch Sylphide pointes. They are wider on the platform which is good, but i cant stand up properly flat on them without my toes pressing against the platform and putting pain even before going on pointe! I tried the half size up which felt perfect on pointe (no pain) but the lady said it had too much material hanging off the heel. She said it was better getting them smaller as the box and shoe will stretch. But at the moment my toes are curling standing flat in them with pain on my big toe and they feel like they are too narrow/cutting off circulation around the sides of my foot. Should i go back and get the half size larger anyway? Or is there another shoe i could get? I wear a sylphide 6 C so133

I bought my first pair of pointe shoes but have i been ill fitted?
Your toes should NOT curl. First, try stretching your shoe. Put alilttle water on the top and sides of the box (not the front). Close your shoe in a door to soften it. Where them around the house so the can stretch. If you have room in the back from the 1/2 up shoe, then the ones you have now are your fit. If after stretching the shoe your toes still curl, try a different brand and a different sales lady.





Good Luck
Reply:you have definately been fitted wrong, there is always a little fabric on the heal, that is fixed when you sew on the ribbons and elastic. look at the diagrams on the 25 and 26th pages (on the bottom of the page, not the actual page)


http://www.russianpointe.com/FittingGuid...
Reply:go back to the store and try another brand of shoe. You definetley do no want them to big, or you'll have them falling off in class. If you do not trust the fitters judgment, try anther dance store in your area.





happy dancing!
Reply:Yeah you did get fitted wrong. Your toes are soposed to be touching but not killing your feet while you walk in them. You might want to try on a different brand. As long as you havn't sewn on the ribbons and elastic strap you can return them.
Reply:You have been fitted wrong. Try them on and walk around the store on carpet for a min or two.


You probably need to go up at least one more size.
Reply:If you haven't sewn your ribbons/elastic on yet I say take them back and demand your money back. It sounds like you were completely fitted wrong and you could get serious hurt if you continue using these pointe shoes. Don't go back if your going to get sized by the same person, I think you should have somebody else fit you.





Also, I have noticed that Bloch pointe shoes seem to hurt more then the others that I've had in the past. I'm not sure what other pointe shoes I've used in the past but I can tell you from personal experience that I will not be getting Bloch anymore if I go back on pointe. I like their leos, but no their pointe shoes.
Reply:in a new pointe shoe, with your pads in it, you should be able to wiggle your toes just up and down. that tells the fitter that your toes are flat. knuckled toes don't wiggle. you need to talk to the owner/manager of the store, tell them that you were improperly fitted, and try again. im sorry that happened to you. if your in metro detroit, come see me at En Pointe Dancewear %26amp; Accessories!
Reply:I have had the same problems with my pointe shoes. Mine in the case that I had, wore in perfectly. The first thing that you should do is ask your teacher, because they can usually make a good decision with the information that you have given them. If you have already sewn the elastics and ribbons on, the y will be ''un-returnable'' so you will either have to get new pointe shoes or stretch the ones out that you have. I usually slam by boxes of my pointe shoes in a door jam because my feet are really wide in the front since I have bunions. This really helped me. Also, dancing on them might loosen them up. But, you also have to take in that your first pair of pointe shoes, and they are going to be everything but comfortable.
Reply:Take the shoes back and get the larger size, or another brand that feels good flat foot or on pointe. The box gets softer on the sides, but does not stretch like a leather slipper would. That is insane.
Reply:Hi dolly, I fit pointe shoes. The fact that you used the exact phrase "curlign standing flat" means you have been fitted wrong. This is EXACTLY what I look for first when fitting a dancer. Now, without seeing your feet, I can't tell you if the length of the next half size up is too big. You may want to try the D width, or another style bloch. Blochs tend to run wider in the crowns and box, but once they start to stretch, its because theyre getting too soft. There shouldn't be "growing room" but the philanges should be flat from the get go.
Reply:yes you have been fitted horribly wrong. first off many times at dance stores they give you random little girls who do not know what they are doing. to prevent this from happening i would ask for the manager to fit you or see if any companies by you do fittings. many times my pointe teacher will come with me when trying a new shoe. ask your teacher if she will meet you at the dance store. as i am sure you know, pointe shoes are not meant to have any grow room. if there is grow room when you go up onto en pointe you feet will slide and fall down which hurts and could potentially break toes. but shoes that are too small cramp the toes and can put them into akward painful posittions and will not nearly help you display your talents. if the bloch sylphide shoe in the half size up is too large than you should switch the shoe entirely.





i hope i was helpful and have fun with your first pair of pointe shoes. good luck!!!!!!!!
Reply:The shoe is meant to be firm without bag at the back and they do have to be broken in and this takes a few wears. I know my daughter used to bang the box on the ground a few times and try and bend it to make it give a bit.


If you are still concerned take the shoes to your ballet teacher as most teachers prefer to check the pointe shoes when I student is going into their first pair. She will know if they are a proper fit or not as she has years of experience. If the teacher says they are not any good then you will need to return them and perhaps try another supplier who has better knowledge at fitting them.


Also if it is your first pair then you may feel some discomfort with them. Does your teacher permit the use of ouch pouches as some teachers do and others don't. If you are using them then they need to be fitted with the shoes as you need a bigger shoe to accommodate them. The ouch pouches tend to take a bit of the pressure off the toes. To toughen your feet you should soak them in methylated spirits. It sounds horrible but is an old trick that many of the ballet dancers use. And if you are not allowed ouch pouches my daughter used to tape her feet with elastoplast tape before each class as her teacher was old fashioned and didn't allow ouch pouches.
Reply:you were fitted wrong! try a different style. at the dance shop i go to they try on a whole bunch of different styles and it takes like 2 hours and then YOU choose the one that feels best but they usually have like 3 that fit and you just choose which one you want so you should go back and tell them they dont fit
Reply:I beleive you have been. My pointe shoes have extra material at the bottom (just a little bit). I compensate for that with elastic closer to the heel than normal. When you go on pointe, the shoe feels looser. If your toes are curling, they must be too tight.
Reply:oh yea ok there are 2 things you can do...





1: show your dance teacher and state your concern and ask her to come with you when you get to the dance store. that way she can check as well and if something isn't right to her she can help you.





2: just go to the dance store yourself, return the shoes or try to. be sure to take the ribbons and elastic off first if you already put them on.and just be sure to say if something is uncomfortable. what i do i just work around in them in the store for a bit. go up on pointe and half pointe and see if anything pinches or hurts.





in the future you may try showing yor teacher whenever you get new shoes before you sew anything on. this is what i do and it's saved me a lot of trouble haha. i don't know what to tell you about sizes though...just try them on until they fit. you might try another brand. some just don't work for people.
Reply:i believe that you got fitted wrong. if neither of the sizes (the ones you have or the 1/2 up) fit perfectly, try a different make
Reply:To be honest, ballet is not my best subject, but my sister had problems with her pointe shoes, she had to go back and get them resized because she got blisters.


When she was back in the shop she saw these things called 'ouch-pouches' which go at the end of your pointe shoes so your toes have a small cushion to rest on, and not the hard material at the end of the shoe.


Apparently they're really comfortable,


hope this helps xx
Reply:You've definitely been fitted wrong. You're toes should NOT be curling in your shoes. I had a similar problem when I was first going on to pointe. A lot of generic dance store employees don't have the specific expertise to fit all brands of pointe shoes, even if they've done pointe themselves. Because it is only in recent years that such a variety of styles have become available, many older dancers only have experience with brands like Freed. When they try to extrapolate their experience with this brand to others, they make some very bad calls. In your case, the fitter was probably not aware that because of the shoes' design, Blochs create an area that looks much baggier than other brands at the back of the heel. As long as the shoe isn't falling off, this is not a problem. Go with your intuition when it comes to fitting pointe shoes. They're your feet after all!
Reply:Look, that lady can't tell you what's going to break your feet apart slowly and painfully. Go back and get the half size larger, no matter how much she protests. You are set up to get bunions and bloody blisters. Fun...PLEASE go back and do what feels best to your feet. Keep in mind however that if your feet slide down to the box when you go on pointe, the shoes are too big. you may just want to get shoes with a larger width.
Reply:I haven't worn pointe shoes in years. It's been a long time since I have danced. I did wear Bloch Sylphide's though and they were difficult to break in; for my feet at least. You need to have a little bit of room, but not too much because they will stretch. But if you are feeling pain before going en pointe, then they are too tight. You may need to try to different brand or style all together.





Finding the right pointe shoe takes work. I danced for twelve years. When I stopped, I still didn't have the "right" shoe. Some work better than others. Don't be afraid to try on dozens of brands, types, etc.





When I couldn't get Sylphide's I would wear Coppelia's. Give 'em a shot. If you don't like them, try something else.





Finding the perfect pointe shoes is a process. That's for sure!





Good Luck!



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